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Oil change for 500

Post by reventlow » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:08 am

2012 500 Oil Change:
The service interval for the first oil change is 7,500 miles. I'd prefer to do a first oil change at 1,500 just to insure that the oil is clean.
I was also going to replace the oil with a synthetic.
Any input would be appreciated.

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Post by Denise » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:19 am

I'm willing to go to 4k every oil change. There's no way I'd wait until 7500 to 8k before changing the oil. As for synthetic, I don't know why you couldn't but I'll be asking the service tech.

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Post by JarrodWeaver » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:19 pm

Think they must be using synthetic at the factory since the interval is 7,500 miles. Also want to change mine prior to 7,500 but haven't had the guts to attack the oil filter location yet. Yikes.
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Post by sjmst2 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:10 pm

I think mine said 8,000 miles. My salesman said take it in at 3,000, though. Not clear if that would be free. I'd prefer to use synthetic.
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Post by rossonero404 » Wed May 04, 2011 3:12 pm

The maintenance schedule is not only based on mileage (every 8k) but on time as well. The official fiat app states maintenance schedule of every 8k miles or 6 MONTHS. As in my case, i only put on less than 10k a year, so i'm guessing by the time my first 6 months rolls around i'll probably only have 3-5k miles on it.
I'll certainly be going in every 6 months though and keeping tabs on everything done.
As for the oil, fairly certain it is not Synthetic.
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Post by Denise » Wed May 04, 2011 8:56 pm

The oil is NOT synthetic. It is 5W30 weight. I got 4k in the first month so it looks like I'll be changing it once a month. :shock:
There are two covers that need to come off. The oil filter housing is on the right, front part of the engine. I was told to twist the oil filter housing off before I drain the oil to aid in completely draining it from the oil filter housing. It will need 4 quarts to fill it up.

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Post by ventura ace » Thu May 05, 2011 12:32 am

See my posts from May1 and May 4 for procedure and pictures for my first oil change at 2000 miles: http://fiat-500-usa-forum.965414.n3.nab ... l#a2901575 .

I forgot to mention that the torque for re-tightening the oil cartridge cannister is 25 newton-meters (about 18 ft-lbs).

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Post by KevinB » Sat May 07, 2011 8:51 pm

canister filter? really?

I had 60's and 70's britich cars that used that technology... then a 98 VW GTI VR6 that had a canister.....

Never again. will wait for the spin on adapter.
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SYNTHETIC OIL

Post by krazeyone » Sat May 07, 2011 9:17 pm

if you are able to use synthetic and not void the warrenty, than you can go 5 to 6 thousand on an oil change with no worry. that is what it is made for. if your going to chane your oil every 3500-4000 miles than synthetic oil is a waste of money for you, conventional oil will be a good choice for you. i'm not 100% sure but i think 5w20 is a synthetic blend?

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Post by ventura ace » Sun May 08, 2011 7:16 am

KevinB wrote:canister filter? really?

I had 60's and 70's britich cars that used that technology... then a 98 VW GTI VR6 that had a canister.....

Never again. will wait for the spin on adapter.


What's the problem with the cannister? Other than its location, I found it to be very convenient, and not messy at all. I understand that this is a common design for BMW and Mercedes, also.

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Post by KevinB » Sun May 08, 2011 7:33 am

Good Morning Alvon (or is it still night for you?):

Pre-conceived opinion based on lots of poor designs (like the british cars with inverted cannister oil filters right over the suspension guaranteeing a mess whill be made.).

The VW was better, but still made a mess down my arm every time.

Also, Audi has proven that canister oil filters can withstand excessivly high oil pressures over sustained time. (measure of safety).

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Post by ventura ace » Sun May 08, 2011 7:58 am

'morning, Kevin. Up early for a bike ride today.

The cannister design has a neat feature that allows all the oil to drain back into the pan (which is why you need to unscrew the cannister before you drain the pan). I had a drop or two dribble down the side. I think if one were to loosen the cannister a few turns to brake the o-ring seal, and then go do something else for a couple of minutes to let the residual oil all drain out before removing the cannister the rest of the way, then there would not be a drop of spillage at all.

It is a nice design.

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Post by JarrodWeaver » Sun May 08, 2011 6:29 pm

I have been driving German cars for so long that I can't remember the last time I changed a screw-on filter. Granted, the canister on my '59 Morris Minor was a complete mess but modern canisters are much better.

@Alvon - one site I was looking at had a K&N screw on which you may be interested in.
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Post by Thad » Wed May 11, 2011 12:55 pm

Filter? Who needs a filter. I've got an 850 and a 600. We don't need no stinkin' filters. Just spin it around!
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Post by navy48 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:39 pm

I know the factory says 7,500 and I know THEY know more than I, but I'm still changing mine every 5,000 with synthetic and rotating my tires at the same time. its a few more bucks, but I really want to keep my 500 for some time, so for me it's an investment.

my dilema is that I can't make up my mind if I want to continue to use Mobil 1 as I have for years OR change to Pennzoil Synthetic, since Shell-Pennzoil and Chrysler are 'in bed' together. :)

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