Fiat 126 blowing the doors off Porche Turbo in 1/4 mile

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Fiat 126 blowing the doors off Porche Turbo in 1/4 mile

Post by Marc » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:09 pm

You got to see this!!! Fiat driver putting on a clinic in the study of Horsepower to Weight Ratio....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByOHN3C1PUU

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Post by mbouse » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:00 am

didn't even sound like he gave it all that was there to give!!
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Post by kilrwail » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:36 am

mbouse wrote:didn't even sound like he gave it all that was there to give!!


You're referring to the Porsche, I presume? :D

Being schitzoid, I don't believe it. :?
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Beleive it !

Post by Marc » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:28 am

Carrera did a 13 and change which is about right...really fast...but the 126 was smokin at mid 11's ....looks like he was teasing the Porche owner by holding back a little..

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Post by kilrwail » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:50 am

The Fiat looks and runs great and it's good entertainment. But, a new 911 Turbo will do 11.6, a 10-year old 12.5 and a 20-year old 13.4 (per R&T). So, how old is the Turbo and what does the 126 have in it? Does anyone know?

P.S. divided allegiance is tough :)
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Post by ga.spyder » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:50 pm

I didnt know that Fiat put small block V-8's in any cars.Go back and listen to that again.It is a nice run for Fiat w/ a little help from Chevrolet! I crew for a friend w/ a 6 sec. blown alchohol rail ,and spend a fair amount of time at the strip.That is a V-8. There ia another link on that page of 2 V-8 Yugos w/ front wheels up!! Looks like fun. Craig

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126 rocket

Post by Marc » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:13 am

I think Mike picked up on it first,you can hear the short rev range between gears.I wonder how many runs he can do before the uni-body twists into a pretzle?Heck any time a Fiat can show its tailights to a Porche is worth a watch...heheheh

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Post by kilrwail » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:22 am

I can only do that when I drive the Fiat out of the garage, with the Porsche parked inside :D
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Fast cars

Post by Marc » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:17 am

Those Porches really can go fast,nothin like a Turbo.I have a 91 Eagle Talon TSi that has a slow boy racing twin cam with a total turbo system uprade and an Apexi fuel controller.You wont believe how fast a 4cylinder engine can be.I run 15psi boost,Lucas 650cc injectors,Big 16G turbo,adjustable wastegate etc...In 1991 it was stock ,faster than a Mustang GT and the LX which was 500lbs lighter in the 1/4 mile...its really fast now ,it breaks the tire loose when you hit the torque band in third gear!You need to have both hands on the wheel when accelerating!!alot of fun

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Post by kilrwail » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:45 am

I had a 1990 Talon TSI that was bone stock. It was fast enough, both from rest and at the top end. Yours must be a real handful.
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Talon TSI

Post by Marc » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:09 am

I bought it brand new ,used it for a couple of years and didn't drive it too much after that.Never had an emotional attachment to it like the Fiat.One day the counter rotating balnce shaft timing belt broke.Engine was ok but to do a timing belt replacement is a real big job.So,I couldn't help myself,had to make it faster.At a 100,000 miles the piston walls still had cross hatch!Then I spent some time putting it together and I'll tell you,its about 325hp,anymore and your into changing drivetrains into rear wheel drive stuff from v8's so it can handle the torque.My spider still has better road manners in the suspension dept,even though I maxed out the talons suspension...Even with all that power ,that little Fiat is still more fun to drive.

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Post by kilrwail » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:29 am

You can't put the top down in the Talon :D
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Post by mbouse » Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:13 pm

http://gallery.italiancarclub.com/michf ... 7.JPG.html

here's a spider with a chevy implant. never saw it run, sadly.
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Post by Danno » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:10 pm

mbouse wrote:http://gallery.italiancarclub.com/michflu/2006MetroCruise/DSCF0137.JPG.html

here's a spider with a chevy implant. never saw it run, sadly.

ooohhhh, not another SpYder.....

and why is it a Cheviat, and not a Fiatvrolet?

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Post by mbouse » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:45 pm

i could not believe the amount of work this guy put into that machine. after he got he attention he came for, he left and we never heard from him again.

the worst part was, he didn't even bother to light 'em off!!
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