Fiat 500 Article-Coming to America

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Post by 77X19 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:32 pm

[quote="Denise"]At least in the US you don't have to buy two and crash one:

That wouldn't be my first choice either but after the testing, it would probably fit the criteria for a parts car though. lol
I've read the only way you could possibly get your hands on a 500 before it was an approved street legal vehicle would be if it was brought over as a "competition vehicle" solely to race. Don't know the ins and outs of that process but here are a few clippets from Transport Canada Regulations:

"competition vehicle" means a vehicle that is designed for use exclusively in closed-course competition and

(a) bears a label affixed by the manufacturer stating, in both official languages, that the vehicle is a competition vehicle and is for use exclusively in closed-course competition, or

(b) is accompanied by a signed declaration clearly indicating that the vehicle is a competition vehicle and is for use exclusively in closed-course competition;

D. Competition Vehicles

If your vehicle is a "competition vehicle", as defined in the regulations, you must obtain a letter directly from the manufacturer, stating that the vehicle was designed exclusively for competition use, listing the design characteristics of the vehicle that exclude it from normal use, and listing the race sanctioning body it was designed for. If you are not on the pre-clearance system, you may submit the letter to TC prior to shipment, along with photos of the vehicles (or a web site address that has clear photos of the vehicles in question). This same information can be supplied in a Stage 1 application, if the competition vehicles are to be pre-cleared in a shipment along with other vehicles. When TC is satisfied, using the letter and photographs, that the vehicles are in fact "competition vehicles", the vehicles will not need further compliance, such as a bilingual label, since true competition vehicles are not regulated. Stand-alone shipments of competition vehicles are not processed through the pre-clearance program.

Creative writing 101 needed. Just a thought.
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Post by janet70 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:59 am

Don't discount the cute factor. There will, I believe, always be a small market for economy/student/commuter cars. If Fiat could keep the price down within the range of other small quality imports such as VW, perhaps the little 500 could capture a worthwhile market share here in the US.
I see Chevy Aveos (rebadged Japanese Daewoo with a Giugiaro Italian designed body, I hear. No wonder I liked the look!) all over the place in the greater Dayton area. At up to 35 MPG, they sell well and I considered buying one myself.

Remember the cute nostalgia factor surely played a role in the success wave of the new VW Beetle.

Come to our shores, little 500!
Janet Bailey

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Post by 77X19 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:52 am

[quote="janet70"] "If Fiat could keep the price down within the range of other small quality imports such as VW, perhaps the little 500 could capture a worthwhile market share here in the US."

Exactly, in Canada too Eh!
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Post by Denise » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:50 am

Jerry, I'm with you on the SUV debate. Ron and I discussed selling our 2500 454 powered Suburban because we don't drive it except in extreme circumstances. We opted to keep it because it doesn't burn gas just sitting there and when the need arises, it's available. Just the thought of the $125 it takes to fill it up makes it easy to use it as lttle as possible! Now, for commuting, I use my Grand Prix, which gets 25/30 mpg. Until there's a car, like the Fiat, that gets 50 to 90 mpg, I won't waste my money or the world's resources buying another new car

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Post by Kevin1 » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:20 am

While I'm personally not a fan of big vehicles I can't fault GM's logic for concentrating their efforts on the vehicles that are their best sellers. At least it pusheses things in the right direction. Since Americans are so determined to believe they need a 4,500 pound grocery-getter, let's make that monster as efficient as possible. When I fill up my car I am always amazed to see the total sale left on the pump from the previous fill up. Topping $100 has become a very common event.

I swear every first child born in my home town must come with a Tahoe, Suburban, or Escalade, since nearly every family, one child or otherwise, drives one. Or two. I don't get it, probably never will, but I have to believe what I see going on around me. Accepting the fact that the big SUV is here to stay, making them 30% more efficient will have to help the overall energy picture. And leave more gas for our "Italian toys".
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Post by juppy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:57 pm

On a random note...

http://www.fiat.co.uk/Showroom/#showroom/home

Fiat is now voted as the worlds greenest manufacturer of main stream cars (mainly due to the small engines in its cars) and the view from the show room on the web page is from the roof of the Lingotto factory in Turin!

http://www.fiat.co.uk/Showroom/#showroo ... 00/explore

Go play!

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Post by 77X19 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:13 pm

Great site

Especially liked the Motorsport site. The S2000 Punta (rallye car) could spark peoples curiosity about Fiats this side of the pond.
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Post by juppy » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:50 pm

ga.spyder wrote:You are right on track ,Mike.Nobody else in the world drive the behemoths that we do! I dont think gas prices alone would do it.Snow ,boats and toys exist in other places ,and they seem to manage with smaller ,fuel efficient support vehicles Craig
I was brousing the Net and seen these two videos, one of the Fiat 500 hitting an off set barrier at 40mph and one of a Ford Pickup doing something simalar.

Interesting to see who comes better off.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPO-KfJs7ao

The Fiat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCIBOYxzqko

The Ford

Which one would you rather be in if it all went wrong?

Oh and if your wondering about what happens if a very small strong car crashes into a very large heavy car thats famed for it's safety, then just watch all 9 minutes of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0XPbydQPIo

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Post by Denise » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:24 pm

That last crash test was amazing.

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Post by 77X19 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:21 pm

Great video's Jim

Technology and Design=Safety!!
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Post by juppy » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:01 am

It's amazing the standards that are being asked off small cars in Europe at the moment. Low Co2 emitions, High Fuel economy due to fuel prices and incresing amounts of luxury equitment and safety that is expected for no extra outlay by the buyer makes cars like the 500 a bargin.

(the Renualt in the crash text video has the exact same 5 star safety rating as the New Fiat does)


Also on a random note.... Tom the presenter in the crash video has had my FIAT pit lane jacket on standing beside Stu the boss of the NIIMC.

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Hopefully it fits me a bit better! :lol:

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Post by 77X19 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:46 pm

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Post by Denise » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:10 am

A convertible? How cute!

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